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  Guns...Are You For or Against Legally Owning Them?

  by minimus in

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  there is a surge going on of people buying guns, especially first time buyers.

  with talk of police defunding and rioting in the neighborhoods, some people want to protect themselves.. do you support owning and using a gun if needed?.

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  I think trust and a good information network is the safest community defence. Some people are SO dangerous a gun isn't really going to give you much protection. Especially if you are a bad shot.
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  Useing unhealthy fear to force people to obey.

  by Yomama in

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  fear of being shunned.

  do you have any stories?.

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  They thought I might be afraid of being shunned. Instead at least 17 elders hid from me in the lounge of an old aged pensioner.

  The shunning keeps on failing - gradually more and more talk to me. It's so sweet when it happens. You know they are being brave as best they can. So many of them don't agree with this ridiculous state of affairs. But they are too afraid to speak openly.
  
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  JW (and other religions) excuses for messing up when trying to understand prophesies.

  by RubaDub in

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  this is not a jw-bashing thing, but it always seemed odd to me that the "excuse" when things go wrong is that "we have to wait and see how the prophesy is fulfilled" or some other wording.. my question has always been, then what is the purpose of the prophesy if you don't understand it until after the fact?

  isn't that like having a weather forecast but being told that we don't really know what the weather will be until the next day?

  isn't that the purpose of prophesy?.

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  Rubabud - Like NASA they have to learn lessons. Learning lessons is excuse number 418932 on page 591 of the book Excuses for DubbaDummies.
  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG022FW4SDk

  Hair raising eh?
  

  But Jesus did a cracking prophecy here. 100% correct. And - eventually a lot of people understood it!
  

  (Matthew 24:4-5) . . .And in answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads YOU; 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. . .
  

  But some may still be on catch up with it. Possibly cause they haven't read it properly or cause the haven't read it. Or other.
  
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  Quit Quietly now more than ever

  by gone for good in

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  the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.

  - no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.

  make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).

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  They misuse the identity 'Jehovah's Witness'. So might it be better to say you are no longer a member of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society?

  The term 'Jehovah's Witness' was lifted from the book of Isaiah and does not refer to them, but the house of Jacob. It is used by the Society as a way to call themselves Christians.
  
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  Sunday WT Study- King of North and South

  by truthlover123 in

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  paragraph 8 dealing with who is the anglo-american power -- they note different images- feet of clay, 7 headed beast which has a 8th head arise, and so on.

  the last image is of the "false prophet- indicating this is another aspect of the anglo american image quoting revelation 19:20 and saying the wild beast and the false prophet are one in the same -(i see the as separate entities) -- a/a dual world power.

  which will be destroyed... .

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  Bit like the debate on this thread.
  

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5175583142051840/you-afraid-publicity-express-your-opinion
  
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  Sunday WT Study- King of North and South

  by truthlover123 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  paragraph 8 dealing with who is the anglo-american power -- they note different images- feet of clay, 7 headed beast which has a 8th head arise, and so on.

  the last image is of the "false prophet- indicating this is another aspect of the anglo american image quoting revelation 19:20 and saying the wild beast and the false prophet are one in the same -(i see the as separate entities) -- a/a dual world power.

  which will be destroyed... .

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  Beth and Sigried - you don't have to get people to believe your rubbish. All you have to do is take the platform/loud speaker and make sure the oppositions keeps quiet.

  (Daniel 7:8) . . .And, look! there were eyes like the eyes of a man in this horn, and there was a mouth speaking grandiose things. . .
  
  
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  ExJW Protest News Report

  by Anna Marina in

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  this is a news report from march 2017 but it's still as relevant today as it was then.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8koav8xzck.

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  While we are on the subject of employment - does anyone know whether or not this is true? It is something I saw on TV years ago but when I later asked someone they said, "no that's not true. That's rubbish."

  So - it's this - when you push drugs, ordinary people who work wont take them because they want to keep their heads free to make sensible decisions.

  But if you provide the population with low cost housing and keep them entertained, then you have a market for your drugs. Therefore there is a drive amongst some, to invest in low cost housing and certain forms of entertainment, which on the surface appear motivated by social concern, but the end result is a growth in drug taking. And that growth in drug taking was the desired outcome from the beginning.

  The Bible says Babylon the Great is both a city and the Mother of Harlots who affects people by using her spiritistic practices on them. That word spiritistic in Greek is φαρμακείᾳ (pharmakeia) which is like pharmacy, to do with drugs (harmful ones). Because of this description in the Bible, Babylon the Great can be interpreted as meaning all false religion, ie spiritism.

  Well doesn't the Watchtower's methods lead some to end up in low cost housing? The congregation members aren't entertained, so much as kept busy and bored. But there is a big social network.

  I don't know whether the TV progam I watched was telling the truth and it was on years ago. But it was plausable.
  
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  ExJW Protest News Report

  by Anna Marina in

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  this is a news report from march 2017 but it's still as relevant today as it was then.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8koav8xzck.

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  Hi DesirousofChange - I do apologise - I did not mean standard employment. I did not express myself well and was only agreeing with you that when people work hard they can be unfairly penalised.
  
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  The Recent Legal Decision and WT Hypocrisy

  by Slidin Fast in

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  just to remind you, the recent court decision included a judgement about wt and freedom of speech something the organisation has long prided itself about.

  infosektamedia release of july 8, 2020 7. thewatchtower organisation denies members the human right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion according to article 18 statement by the expert (tages-anzeiger)"furthermore, article 18 states that everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion, a right that the watchtower society claims for itself but does not grant its members.

  " judgment of the court by ostracizing members who no longer share the faith, they are implicitly denied freedom of faith and conscience (proof of good faith).

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  The magician has to know how to do the trick to fool the audience.
  
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  Newest Anti-Apostate Tactics

  by Anna Marina in

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  2. beliefs

  don't quote any scriptures during the watchtower study that are not in the paragraph.. don't quote the governing body or anything from the broadcast ever.

  it might be true but it is not true truth if it is coming out of your mouth if you have been critical of the governing body.

  especially so if your criticism is valid and you have dared to support you view with scriptures, most especially the words of jesus christ.. anyone know of other new tactics?.

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  truth_b_know - yes that's how I remember it.

  DD - a CO arrive and cut up our cong. The elders in the new cong were as you describe. I was shocked by their attitude. One of them said to me that if the Soc said black was white and white was black he'd believe them. So I stumped him by saying, "what if they say adultery is ok?"

  Actually his mate (other elder) used to go round making dirty phone calls. He's still in. I got thrown out for sticking to what the Bible said at Dan 1:1 and Dan 2:1 plus behaving like a Christian.

  LV101 - I maybe heard some things like that (can't remember). But some stuff could be totally ignored. Now that's changed.